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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s exactly it! PHP is complete MESS and as we all know, MESS is likely to suck when kept on one place or extended with more of new mess :) It not only needs to be completely rewritten, it mainly requires to be thinked about. It is getting even more hybrid and mixed, so imagine you take all mainstream languages and put them to one. Everybody does everything his way and that is why I agree it&#039;s bloody sucking MESS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That's exactly it! PHP is complete MESS and as we all know, MESS is likely to suck when kept on one place or extended with more of new mess <img src='http://gordon-myers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  It not only needs to be completely rewritten, it mainly requires to be thinked about. It is getting even more hybrid and mixed, so imagine you take all mainstream languages and put them to one. Everybody does everything his way and that is why I agree it's bloody sucking MESS.</p>
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		<title>By: Faltzer</title>
		<link>http://gordon-myers.com/?p=103&#038;cpage=1#comment-10320</link>
		<dc:creator>Faltzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 05:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the hell are you people talking about? The PHP Interpreter is a MESS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the hell are you people talking about? The PHP Interpreter is a MESS.</p>
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		<title>By: skztr</title>
		<link>http://gordon-myers.com/?p=103&#038;cpage=1#comment-7451</link>
		<dc:creator>skztr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 14:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A PHP-er here (found this page when looking into named arguments)

&quot;This mostly is a credit to the phenomenal Reflection API that PHP offers. I must confess that I haven&#039;t used either Ruby or Python, but I would be initially doubtful to believe that they have as strong features in terms of reflection as PHP does... (correct me if I&#039;m wrong)&quot;

Just have to point out here that Ruby&#039;s reflection is pretty much its main &quot;killer feature&quot;. Even something as simple as bar = foo.class.new() is enough to tell you that Ruby has some serious reflection built right into the language: asking for an instance&#039;s class doesn&#039;t give you the name of the class, it gives you the class itself, which you can use in a useful manner. PHP 6 is going to bring a lot of neat things, but I still don&#039;t see anything like that on the horizon.

PHP6 is going to clean things up a lot, and I really hope that it gets stable enough that I can actually use it in a production environment. Same experience with Ruby on Rails hype being more than it delivers, and I wouldn&#039;t want to use rails after the experiences I had with it.

But - can&#039;t knock Ruby&#039;s reflection. Try it out. Don&#039;t use it in production, just try using ruby. Its simplicty makes it great for prototyping and working out an object model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A PHP-er here (found this page when looking into named arguments)</p>
<p>"This mostly is a credit to the phenomenal Reflection API that PHP offers. I must confess that I haven't used either Ruby or Python, but I would be initially doubtful to believe that they have as strong features in terms of reflection as PHP does... (correct me if I'm wrong)"</p>
<p>Just have to point out here that Ruby's reflection is pretty much its main "killer feature". Even something as simple as bar = foo.class.new() is enough to tell you that Ruby has some serious reflection built right into the language: asking for an instance's class doesn't give you the name of the class, it gives you the class itself, which you can use in a useful manner. PHP 6 is going to bring a lot of neat things, but I still don't see anything like that on the horizon.</p>
<p>PHP6 is going to clean things up a lot, and I really hope that it gets stable enough that I can actually use it in a production environment. Same experience with Ruby on Rails hype being more than it delivers, and I wouldn't want to use rails after the experiences I had with it.</p>
<p>But -- can't knock Ruby's reflection. Try it out. Don't use it in production, just try using ruby. Its simplicty makes it great for prototyping and working out an object model.</p>
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		<title>By: Life according to Gordon &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Even I will admit this is a drawback to PHP</title>
		<link>http://gordon-myers.com/?p=103&#038;cpage=1#comment-4172</link>
		<dc:creator>Life according to Gordon &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Even I will admit this is a drawback to PHP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and why. Don&#039;t get me wrong, I still love the language (as can be noted by how I&#039;ve written before in defense of it against some of the typical &quot;PHP sucks&quot; arguments). But I will freely admit that some of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and why. Don't get me wrong, I still love the language (as can be noted by how I've written before in defense of it against some of the typical "PHP sucks" arguments). But I will freely admit that some of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://gordon-myers.com/?p=103&#038;cpage=1#comment-3036</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anon (comment #31): &lt;a href=&quot;http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/1842/hairisabirdym6.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/1842/hairisabirdym6.jpg&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anon (comment #31): <a href="http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/1842/hairisabirdym6.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/1842/hairisabirdym6.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: woozyking</title>
		<link>http://gordon-myers.com/?p=103&#038;cpage=1#comment-3030</link>
		<dc:creator>woozyking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time will tell. If PHP doesn&#039;t fix some of its major problems, it will continuously lose great programmers to others like Ruby/Python/JSP/.NET (although I&#039;d not like to see MS to get any stronger, .NET is powerful...). Posts that side-kick PHP can help the PHP team improve the language, optimistically speaking :)

However, I truly agree to what Gordon said about how &quot;you choose to make it&quot;. Yes, that&#039;s pretty much what I think about PHP programmers around me.

ps: Maybe I don&#039;t have as much authority to talk about PHP since web programming is just my hobby. But really, I&#039;ve tried all famous/fancy ones and picked PHP at the end, so it is the language of my choice ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time will tell. If PHP doesn't fix some of its major problems, it will continuously lose great programmers to others like Ruby/Python/JSP/.NET (although I'd not like to see MS to get any stronger, .NET is powerful...). Posts that side-kick PHP can help the PHP team improve the language, optimistically speaking <img src='http://gordon-myers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>However, I truly agree to what Gordon said about how "you choose to make it". Yes, that's pretty much what I think about PHP programmers around me.</p>
<p>ps: Maybe I don't have as much authority to talk about PHP since web programming is just my hobby. But really, I've tried all famous/fancy ones and picked PHP at the end, so it is the language of my choice <img src='http://gordon-myers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jasper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like PHP, yeah it has pitfalls but nothing&#039;s perfect. I&#039;m getting sick of all this PHP sucks crap, but then I just go to work, write good code, come home and ignore it. I advise you to do the same as the people who hate it will never change and why should they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like PHP, yeah it has pitfalls but nothing's perfect. I'm getting sick of all this PHP sucks crap, but then I just go to work, write good code, come home and ignore it. I advise you to do the same as the people who hate it will never change and why should they?</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://gordon-myers.com/?p=103&#038;cpage=1#comment-2984</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>giku,

&lt;strong&gt;isset()&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;empty()&lt;/strong&gt; have very specific purposes that I actually &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.isset.php#83620&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;recently wrote about&lt;/a&gt;, but I will admit that &lt;strong&gt;is_null()&lt;/strong&gt; is a completely useless function. The reason it exists, however, is to maintain consistency with the other &lt;strong&gt;is_&lt;em&gt;type&lt;/em&gt;()&lt;/strong&gt; functions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>giku,</p>
<p><strong>isset()</strong> and <strong>empty()</strong> have very specific purposes that I actually <a href="http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.isset.php#83620" rel="nofollow">recently wrote about</a>, but I will admit that <strong>is_null()</strong> is a completely useless function. The reason it exists, however, is to maintain consistency with the other <strong>is_<em>type</em>()</strong> functions.</p>
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		<title>By: it sucks or not? &#8226; antoniolorusso.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>it sucks or not? &#8226; antoniolorusso.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 13:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Facebook use PHP? Why Yahoo? I&#8217;d like to link this article because it reflects my thoughts No, PHP does not suck; YOU suck [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Facebook use PHP? Why Yahoo? I'd like to link this article because it reflects my thoughts No, PHP does not suck; YOU suck [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://gordon-myers.com/?p=103&#038;cpage=1#comment-2979</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 11:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PHP _does_ suck... get over it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PHP _does_ suck... get over it...</p>
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